Stealthy Trapper · Feb 13, 2006, 01:57 AM // 01:57

I have been doing several runs through Tombs UW recently and on 2 consecutive runs I received Illyana's Mirror on both runs (bah that sucked). My question is that I used an ID kit on one just for the heck of it and it said its gold value was 36 gold. I was curious so I identified the other and it stated a value of 60 gold. I know it is probably some useless A-Net function that they use and, it really doesn't matter to me. I was just curious if anybody had any idea why they have different values when they are the exact same item? Thanks

generik · Feb 13, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Try it on whites.

dargon · Feb 13, 2006, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Value is random, typically ranging anywhere from 1 to around 300 or so

Stealthy Trapper · Feb 13, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

Yeah, I figured it was some kind of randomness. Didn't think it was anything special. Thanks for the input anyway.

Lavindathar · Feb 13, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44

Well why are greens worth less to a merchant than Golds?

Doctor Death · Feb 13, 2006, 11:56 AM // 11:56

I noticed something similar with IDS. During the Christmas update I farmed 5 IDS and the value was the same for 4 of them but one was slightly higher??? (cant remember the values). Anyway I sold the 4 and kept the other for myself.

Kassad · Feb 13, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Why would you want to merchant a green anyway?

TheSonofDarwin · Feb 13, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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Originally Posted by Kassad

Why would you want to merchant a green anyway?

I'd assume for the same reason I do: because we don't have the storage/inv space to hold onto them and we don't want to spend an hour or two trying to sell it for 1k or some other cheap amount when much more farming could be done in that time and result in a much larger profit. I've sold roughly 15-20 greens to the merchant since the new UW was introduced, mostly the earth elementalist items. It's either that or trash them as not even anyone in the guild wants them.

LightningHell · Feb 13, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19

Either that or you could give it away

Harold · Feb 13, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24

Here's a trick: when you get an experience scroll as a drop, id it. Often the regular merchant will give you more than the scroll trader will when you do this

Poison Ivy · Feb 13, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by Harold

Here's a trick: when you get an experience scroll as a drop, id it. Often the regular merchant will give you more than the scroll trader will when you do this

The blue ones or the gold ones?

TheSonofDarwin · Feb 13, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by LightningHell

Either that or you could give it away

And I would do that as soon as there was a way to guarantee all of the Mo/W (or any other farmer for that matter) wouldn't flock towards me in an attempt to obtain it to resell. Guildmates get items for free, if they want them for free they can disban their solo-manned "I Have Guild!1!1!" guild and join up upon passing inspection.

What would be better, IMO, then having to merchant them would be the ability to basic salvage them. Basic only so pefect mods couldn't be extracted, but greens could be made to give 1.5 or double the amount of crafting materials you would get from a similar purple/gold weapon. I know most people go into the new UW for greens - I go in for crafting supplies

^^ As for the scrolls, I never think to ID/merchant them. As soon as one drops for me I instantly activate it. It's benefits, IMO, are more beneficial than the money the merchant will you for them.

Harold · Feb 13, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy

The blue ones or the gold ones?

Both. It seems like the price you get is random, but regardless, it's usually higher than what you would've gotten in the first place.

The last time I did this, I used the id kit on a blue scroll and it became worth 150g, instead of the 100g the merchant would've taken instead. Of course, the golds are worth more and that usually results in a higher profit from the id. If you id a scroll and the merchant's buying price turns out to be lower than the scroll trader's buying price, then you can just sell to the trader at his quoted price anyway, so no harm

Sol_Vie · Feb 13, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by dargon

Value is random, typically ranging anywhere from 1 to around 300 or so

No it isn't.

All golds are valued at 35 gold.

Identifying an item brings the value up by 1 gold.

Additionally, item values exceed not only 300, but 400. I'm sure that'll go up as well.

There ye go.

Tarkin · Feb 13, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23

The funny is how worst or useless is a gold iten, better price u will get from merchant... i get some very big gold trash i sold by 300g 400g to merchant... and some real good stuff if u sell to merchant u will get something like 100g, just like Diablo prices

someone remenber that?

Stealthy Trapper · Feb 13, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Um sorry, but I have 2 Illyana's Mirrors and I ided both. One was then valued at 36 and the other was 60. So the theory of iding something only brings it up one gold everytime is wrong. Hence the mercahnts will pay just 35 gold for any green item that has not been ided. It may be some kind of a system only A-Net knows about and it may not be just random but, from a players perspective it is as random as random gets.

Sol_Vie · Feb 14, 2006, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealthy Trapper

Um sorry, but I have 2 Illyana's Mirrors and I ided both. One was then valued at 36 and the other was 60. So the theory of iding something only brings it up one gold everytime is wrong. Hence the mercahnts will pay just 35 gold for any green item that has not been ided. It may be some kind of a system only A-Net knows about and it may not be just random but, from a players perspective it is as random as random gets.

It's not wrong, I was unsure actually. However, IDing an item does bring the price of it a little bit. I said it only brought it up 1g because the given circumstances made me doubtful.

Feb 13, 2006, 01:57 AM // 01:57	#1
Stealthy Trapper Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Guild: Knights Assassins [Kill] Profession: R/	Using ID kit on greens??? I have been doing several runs through Tombs UW recently and on 2 consecutive runs I received Illyana's Mirror on both runs (bah that sucked). My question is that I used an ID kit on one just for the heck of it and it said its gold value was 36 gold. I was curious so I identified the other and it stated a value of 60 gold. I know it is probably some useless A-Net function that they use and, it really doesn't matter to me. I was just curious if anybody had any idea why they have different values when they are the exact same item? Thanks

Feb 13, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02	#2
generik Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005	Try it on whites.

Feb 13, 2006, 02:04 AM // 02:04	#3
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	Value is random, typically ranging anywhere from 1 to around 300 or so

Feb 13, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12	#4
Stealthy Trapper Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Guild: Knights Assassins [Kill] Profession: R/	Yeah, I figured it was some kind of randomness. Didn't think it was anything special. Thanks for the input anyway.

Feb 13, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44	#5
Lavindathar Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Manchester, England Guild: The Monstrous Fangs (fang) Profession: N/Mo	Well why are greens worth less to a merchant than Golds?

Feb 13, 2006, 11:56 AM // 11:56	#6
Doctor Death Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Guild: Currently Guildless Profession: W/N	I noticed something similar with IDS. During the Christmas update I farmed 5 IDS and the value was the same for 4 of them but one was slightly higher??? (cant remember the values). Anyway I sold the 4 and kept the other for myself.

Feb 13, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58	#7
Kassad Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: W/	Why would you want to merchant a green anyway?

Feb 13, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19	#9
LightningHell (????????????)??? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hong Kong Guild: Guildless Profession: Mo/	Either that or you could give it away

Feb 13, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24	#10
Harold Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005	Here's a trick: when you get an experience scroll as a drop, id it. Often the regular merchant will give you more than the scroll trader will when you do this

Feb 13, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#15
Tarkin Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: W/N	The funny is how worst or useless is a gold iten, better price u will get from merchant... i get some very big gold trash i sold by 300g 400g to merchant... and some real good stuff if u sell to merchant u will get something like 100g, just like Diablo prices someone remenber that?

Feb 13, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27	#16
Stealthy Trapper Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Guild: Knights Assassins [Kill] Profession: R/	Um sorry, but I have 2 Illyana's Mirrors and I ided both. One was then valued at 36 and the other was 60. So the theory of iding something only brings it up one gold everytime is wrong. Hence the mercahnts will pay just 35 gold for any green item that has not been ided. It may be some kind of a system only A-Net knows about and it may not be just random but, from a players perspective it is as random as random gets.